The liner 1620 uses is something I wish I had years ago. I have switched all my outerwear to theirs and haven’t looked back. If you work outside and haven’t tried any of their options for a fully lined jacket you’re missing out. It’s light weight but dam does it cut wind and depending on how cold it gets out i size up so I can fit a hoody underneath. Their return is so easy so buy a couple sizes and just return the one that doesn’t work. I have noticed even with air drying the nyco tights up enough that for me I’ve learned I like to layer so size up, so I’m 6’ 225 and I got the XXL.
The only criticism are small but I’ve always enjoyed that the collars have the button to stay in place which this doesn’t have nor extra form arm martial like the unlined nyco shirt jac. Not huge things but things I enjoyed from the unlined version. The only thing I personally would like on any of the jackets is an option to zip the hand pockets just to keep saw dust gettin in would be nice but definitely not a deal breaker.
If your on the fence with any of theirs products just try it. People complain about the price which is just funny because this company is doin what more company’s should be doin givin back to the country you actually live in then supporting something overseas with no warranty.