Recently came across the 1620 brand and was surprised that I had never heard of them before. I purchased the Foundation Pant and after dialing in the right size, I am hooked. I have three pairs now and will definitely be ordering more products in the future. I have always worn Carhartt, Wrangler, Ariat and Berne workwear. It seems like every manufacturer is sacrificing quality/fit for the sake of profit margins. I can't say enough about 1620 and have been advocating the brand to coworkers and friends. Yes, they are not cheap but in my opinion worth every damn penny. If you are on the fence, just buy them!!! Thanks 1620 for making an outstanding product made right here at home.