These are them. The pant you can wear year round in comfort with premium durability. I have slowly acquired more and more 1620 workwear, and I continue to become more and more impressed with the fit and quality. These pants are perfect for the guy who is moving, crouching, climbing, crawling, and twisting all day long. They are insanely comfortable, have perfectly thought out pocket and zipper layout, and they really are nice enough to wear casually after the day is over. The price kept me away for a long time, but there is no denying that this is the best pant I have ever owned.